Windows 8 sucks.

"BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion" (pbs) 11/08/2014 at 21:31 • Filed to: None

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My god, does it suck. My sister had to buy a laptop this afternoon, and we simply couldn't find one with Windows 7 or Windows 10, which I imagine is not actually available yet, so now she's stuck with 8, and I'm stuck with trying to figure out how this shit works.

I might kill myself.

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/08/2014 at 21:33

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Give it time. I hated it at first, but now it's just fine.

 > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/08/2014 at 21:33

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www.classicshell.net

You are welcome.

Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/08/2014 at 21:35

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Windows 10 will be an update to Windows 8. So, don't sweat it.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/08/2014 at 21:36

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Windows 8 really is good if you have a touchscreen. Without it, it takes forever to download.

Put classic shell on there ASAP. IT HELPS SO MUCH!

f86sabre > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/08/2014 at 21:37

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it's not that bad. Skip the tiles and just go to the desktop.

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 11/08/2014 at 21:40

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How would a touchscreen speed up downloads?

dogisbadob > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/08/2014 at 21:40

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Can't you downgrade to 7? Most post-XP Windows allow downgrades all the way back to XP (and possibly even as far back as 3.1)

wafflesnfalafel > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/08/2014 at 21:42

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completely agree - just what we need, slow, inefficient, not intuitive and expensive.

 > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/08/2014 at 21:44

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You could try Windows 10 preview as well.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/…

scoob > f86sabre 11/08/2014 at 21:46

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It's great until you need to find something you would normally find... in the start menu.

Sally O'Broder > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/08/2014 at 21:46

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Windows 8 or 8.1?

Also, keyboard shortcuts are your friend. To find a program, hit the windows key+Q.

GhostZ > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/08/2014 at 22:00

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Get 8.1 or 10. They REALLY fixed a lot of the unintuitive interface with 8.1

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 11/08/2014 at 22:02

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My brain is fried... I combined my two sentences! Thanks

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/08/2014 at 22:02

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Windows 8 really is good if you have a touchscreen. Without it, it takes forever to learn all the mouse controls and tiles.

Put classic shell on there ASAP. IT HELPS SO MUCH!

lone_liberal > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/08/2014 at 22:04

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Update to 8.1. It's not hard after you get used to it and learn to pin stuff you use a lot to the taskbar so you don't have to flip back and forth but the 8.1 update helps.

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! 11/08/2014 at 22:12

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That's alright. What did you mean to say?

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/08/2014 at 22:27

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Been running 8 (and then 8.1) on my iMac since the dev preview came out. It's awkward at first, but you get used to it. Like other commenters, I learned to skip the tiles pretty quickly. They look like they'd be much handier with a touch screen. As far as the start menu goes, I guess with my Mac history I never really used it much when I was running 7, so doing without it wasn't that big a deal.
Frankly I'd rather have 8's relatively lightweight drag on my resources over 7. Running Solidworks and other resource-heavy tasks was much better handled with 8. I only had 4GB of ram, though.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > scoob 11/08/2014 at 22:29

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Search for it. The universal search is there for a reason.

Ducky > dogisbadob 11/08/2014 at 22:33

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nah. i tried this on a laptop and ended up bricking it. most manufacturers don't have drivers for 7 anymore.

Ducky > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/08/2014 at 22:34

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windows 8.1 is great, what are you talking about

feather-throttle-not-hair > wafflesnfalafel 11/08/2014 at 23:10

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don't forget "mandatory" that's the one that gets me.

Tohru > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/09/2014 at 00:23

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When we built the roommate's PC, he wanted Windows 8.1 on it. He's suffering from Stockholm Syndrome and says he loves it. Any time I have to do ANYTHING on it I want to set it on fire and punch him so hard in the dangly bits that his dad feels it.

Tohru > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 11/09/2014 at 00:23

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THE START MENU WAS THERE FOR A REASON TOO

7:07 > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/09/2014 at 00:25

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Two tips for Windows 8 success:

Win + S

Right-click the start button thing

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Tohru 11/09/2014 at 00:38

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It's still there. It's just full screen now (at least, it will be until Windows 10 next year)

duurtlang > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/09/2014 at 04:37

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I can imagine. I'll keep using 7 for now. My girlfriend had a great idea when she got her new laptop with Win 8 or 8.1 though. She immediately, on the first full day of ownership, formatted it and put some version of Linux on there.

GhostZ > dogisbadob 11/09/2014 at 06:18

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You can't downgrade below Vista if you have a 64-bit computer. Even 64-bit XP is buggy as hell and not a viable downgrade option.

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > GhostZ 11/09/2014 at 07:23

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I think hers is 8.1 already, at least that's what the specs say, and, to be serious for a moment, it does have a an old fashioned desktop hiding behind that ass backwards "start screen", but even then all the programs follow the same assbackwards style of the start screen, hiding their controls and toolbars in unobvious places, and the system is still cluttered with redundant bullshit. Like, if you want to go to the Microsoft page to buy Office or whatever, you don't do it through the browser, there's an app for that, and it has a different interface, with different controls. Why do we need that cluttering up the whole system? Couldn't they have left all the internet functions to your browser? Why does this one site need its own separate app? Why even focus on apps in the first place? This is asinine.

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 11/09/2014 at 07:27

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Well, I won't really be using it, since it's my sister's laptop, and there's no way in this earth I'll upgrade from 7 to 8, but even if I did, I don't think I could ever get on terms with some of the blatant design flaws they put in there. Like those godamn apps. Boy, do I hate apps.

GhostZ > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/09/2014 at 07:32

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The problem is that they designed a good system, but left it up to idiots to populate it with things you don't need. It's like a library with all the genres you might want, but none of the books you like.

The best way to deal with it is this:

1. Change the settings to boot to the desktop from start.

2. Use the search function (either hotkey or put your mouse in the upper left corner) to start programs.

3. Pin most programs you use to the taskbar.

4. Use Godmode (look it up, it's a workaround for developers to use that gives them all of the windows settings in one simple page) to change your PC settings instead of their apps or built-in menus.

Just ignore the hell out of the app page. It works great for Xbox, terrible for PC.

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > GhostZ 11/09/2014 at 07:36

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I'll give it a try, I didn't go very far into "exploring" the system last night, as I was too tired to deal with that crap, but just the fact that a guy needs to do all that, just to get the system back to something that actually worked shows how much crap it is. Ans what's with the pages scrolling left to right all of a sudden? What was wrong with scrolling from to bottom, can I change that back too?

GhostZ > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/09/2014 at 07:42

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What pages scroll left to right? Only the start "page" does that, everything else scrolls top to bottom. Like, if you just avoid the start page altogether it makes everything work rather well.

The problem is that they WANT you to use the start page and tiles and touch apps and stuff, but they also have a much better search function and desktop interface that they didn't emphasize and try to get you to avoid. There's like, 4 different ways to do anything. Just gotta learn the right ones, because they made the worst ones the most obvious.

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > GhostZ 11/09/2014 at 07:50

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The... internet browser, whatever it was, scrolled left to right. Is it still internet explorer? Is there chrome for this stinking pile of ass? Maybe Google hasn't fucked it up and Chrome still works like a program as opposed to a godamn app.

E92M3 > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 11/09/2014 at 08:37

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^This

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/09/2014 at 09:11

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See, I just don't use them. I've got ClassicShell installed and stick to the desktop and it's all fine.

Roundbadge > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/09/2014 at 11:41

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If it's actually Windows 8, that can be a pain. I used 8 for a year and I've been using 8.1 for about a year. I used 7 for a couple of years, and I did like it quite a lot. I thought 8 was awful and longed to go back to 7 (the license 8 was installed with made it unable to upgrade to 8.1)...but luckily my laptop died and I had to build a new one. The 8.1 machine I'm using now is great.

Tohru > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 11/09/2014 at 11:57

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STOCKHOLM SYNDROME

GhostZ > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 11/09/2014 at 21:08

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That is definitely not what it's supposed to do. Internet Explorer still scrolls normally, as does Chrome. I have no idea what browser you must be using that scrolls left to right. That's very, very weird.

Chrome has an app and a desktop version of Chrome for Win8. The difference is one opens in a totally new section and integrates with the tiles, the other opens as a window (traditional) on the desktop.